Your Scary Stories Episode #3: This is What Happens When You Step on the Stairs in the Woods

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All right, all right, welcome
to your scary stories. We already have

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coming in. One from TikTok Wrestling soap

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Opera. I thought the show was
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The dog had to go out and
held us up a bit crazy.

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Thing is he actually doesn't have a
dog I do. He's a golden doodle.

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That's the that's the part that I
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he's the scariest part, a real
big puppy. And if I post a

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picture, we'll probably get more followers. So someone said, I thought Luke

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was searching for a fan to blow
onto the microphone for the show. No,

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but two seconds before we the thing
came on, we ran and turned

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off the air conditioner. That is
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man, you're using an air conditioner
and the winner. Man, people are

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all over you, guys, people
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It's a heat pump, so it
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on what you wanted to do.
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one. It sounds like a noisy
fan all the time. So I could

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have said the furnace. Yeah,
yeah, well all right, so let's

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get go in here. We've got
several people watching live, so we don't

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want to let them down. This
is your Scary Stories Live the podcast.

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These show where we share your scary
stories or various other scary stories across the

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Internet. And last week Jackie Moon
shared this story about these stairs in the

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woods that magically randomly show up in
the wood. So I was so intrigued

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by this story that I went out
and I was talking to them the whole

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time. I looked and I looked, and I read and I read,

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and I was so intrigued by it. And I found a story about what

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happened to an individual that's stepped on
or what I guess a dominos to things

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that happened when then an individual stepped
on these stairs in the woods and like

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a search and rescue guy, I
believe jack was who yes, parked of

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this story that made me keep researching. That was your story right at Search

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and Rescue guy. Yeah, it
was Search and rescue guy. He had

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he had a few stories. We
may revisit his stories in the future,

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but this story, again is about
what happens if you step on those creepy

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stairs in the woods, and you
guys, I'm gonna go ahead and go

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ahead and get it going. We
got people waiting, we're a little behind,

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so we'll go ahead and take off
here. And this is going to

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be told and kind of a I'm
going to be reading front the individual that

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shared this story. So okay,
So me and my friend Sam went to

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Michigan together on a hiking trip.
When you pull up, you see a

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lodge. When you hike to the
campsite, it's a very woodsy part of

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Michigan. The trail is like ten
feet wide, and then around you is

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pretty much all woods. There are
park guides that take you to the lodge

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to the camp site. You're allowed
to spread out because everyone is on the

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same trail, but everybody's within a
couple miles of each other. That's that's

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how the size of this is.
There's always a park ranger falling along sometimes

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in the distance. Because of the
size of the park and the amount of

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people. We're technically with a lot
of people, but it's just me and

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Sam. The lining of the trees
on the side of the trail are like

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really really dense. You couldn't see
a deer if it was ten feet in

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front of you. I look off
to the right and there's a gap in

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the trees. I see a staircase
one hundred yards into the woods. It

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sticks out completely. It's so out
of place. It looks like it got

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plucked up with a mansion. It
looks like something you were building, like

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a sim's house. You chose the
staircase, but then you put the staircase

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there. Then you deleted the rest
of the house. But at the top

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it just stopped, doesn't really go
anywhere. It's like ten feet high than

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nothing, which is so weird.
Sam and I look at each other.

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We didn't see the park ranger around, but we decided, hey, let's

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go check these stairs out. So
we started walking towards it. And the

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closer we get to it, the
more eerie things start to feel. I

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started to get the feeling that this
isn't like your local forests preserve. We're

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in the middle of deep woods,
like we're on a long nature adventure or

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something. Then you see something so
clearly man made out here. It sticks

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out. It's weird. Why is
it here? The stairs were glowing as

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if it's trying to attract me.
I started getting intrusive thoughts. Everything in

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my head is saying, go up
these stairs. I run up and just

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hop on the first step. I
have my hand on the railing and it

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puts up my feet on the first
step. This is where things start to

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get weird. The second I got
onto it, it almost felt like it

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had a light, little vibration to
it. I felt it on my feet,

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this vibrating, and on my hands. They were tingling a bit.

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I'm like laughing and giggling, like, oh, this is really weird.

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While I'm expecting the staircase. It
has carpet on the stairs. The railings

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are white. The carpets are blue, like a royal blue. And there's

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no debris. There's not a leaf, not a sprinkle of dirt, not

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any bugs or leaves or anything on
it. Strange. It's almost starts to

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feel like a trap. Part of
my head is saying keep going to the

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top. And then before I climbed
to the top of the stairs, I

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look back at my friend Sam.
He's looking at me like he's horrified.

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He's looking at me like something is
wrong with me, Like I'm clearly in

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distress. Then I look back at
the top, and I'm thinking should I

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go to the top? Sam then
grabs me by the hood and he yanks

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me off the stairs really really hard. Next thing I know, I'm on

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the ground laying face up. He
immediately comes up to me and says,

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are you okay? Yeah, dude, why did you pull me so hard?

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He asked me again, Are you
sure you're okay? I replied,

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what are you talking about? This
is when the conversation turned weird. I

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thought I was on there giggling and
having a good time, and he told

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me it seemed like I was actually
standing there having a standing seizure. I

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don't remember that, because my perspective
is I was laughing and the staircase is

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vibrating, and I'm having a decent
time, just really trying to figure out

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what it is because we have this
immaculate staircase in the middle of the woods.

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And he says, my eyes are
actually rolling in the back of my

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head and I'm having a seizure.
So he yanked me off as soon as

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he started to realize that I was
having a seizure. He said, no

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more than a few seconds past.
Honestly, I felt completely fine. No

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type of side effect or whatever.
He helped me in my feet and asked

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if I'm okay to walk and if
he needed to go get help, and

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I told him I'm fine and absolutely
do not need help, and let's get

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out of here. We hustled back
to the trail and nobody's around. It's

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all good. We've talked about it
for a little bit, but I have

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to convince him that I'm actually fine, fine to continue on and head back

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to the campsite. We finished up
the hike, and when we got back

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to the campsite, everybody's there.
It's all good. Nobody noticed anything or

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saw anything. Nothing dispersing going on. There's food being made. It's been

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a long hike. Everybody's tired.
While we're finishing up eating and everybody else

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is dispersing. I see the park
ranger looking at me with concern. I

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was debating with Sam if I should
tell the ranger what happened. Sam thought

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I should tell him, but honestly, I felt too embarrassed. Sam goes

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up to the tent and I decided
to go to the bathroom before heading to

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the tent. After using the bathroom
and on my way to the tent,

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the park ranger stops me. He
kind of looks pissed off off. He

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looks me in the face, looks
me right in the eyes, and he

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says, please tell me you didn't
touch the stairs. He repeats it again,

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Please tell me you didn't touch those
stairs. I told him I didn't

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break anything, and I didn't mess
with them, because I'm thinking maybe they

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are like a national landmark or something
important. He said, it's not about

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the stairs. I don't care that
you damage them. Did anything happen to

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you? I started to think he
was concerned about my health. I tried

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to downplay it, and I told
him my body threw a little bit of

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a fit. My friend said,
but I'm fine. Now I'm fine,

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because I'm thinking he's wondering, do
I have this guy who's a liability on

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my campsite. He seems upset that
I'm okay. He then tells me if

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something didn't happen to you, something's
going to happen to someone else. I

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thought, that's weird. That's not
where I thought he was gonna take this.

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He starts guilting me, telling me
there are women and children here,

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so if something didn't happen to you, something might happen to them. I

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can tell by the way this guy
is talking that he is absolutely positive that

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something horrible is going to happen because
I touched the stairs. I started pressing

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him because I'm wondering, why are
you actually like the stairs are so ominous?

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I start asking, why would you
take us on this hike by this

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dangerous staircase. He explains a little
bit, kind of like I should be

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in the know about these stairs.
He starts saying stuff like they pop up

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randomly, And suddenly I'm thinking this
guy is absolutely tripping. He's making things

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up. He's trying to talk to
me about touching this random staircase make it

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seem like something horrible is gonna happen. I leave this weirdo by himself because

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I'm gonna go to bed. I
want to try to enjoy this trip for

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the rest of the time we're here. The next day, we have a

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great time. You know. It's
Campsite's got a great lake. We're spending

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time in the water. Nothing weird
is happening. Everything's completely okay. In

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my head, that guy was tripping, he's super weird. Where fine.

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By the end of the day,
I had completely forgotten about what happened.

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Sam's over it and we go to
sleep because obviously when you're camping, you're

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spending so much time and energy outside
you're exhausted. So we hit the Hey

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it's early the next morning when we
hear something outside our tent, maybe around

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four am. The sun's gone an
hour from coming up, and we hear

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this ruckous sound outside, someone crying. We take a look and it's this

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young boy. We're like, what's
going on here? We all got our

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tents and there's already people around him. From what we could hear from people

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talking, his mom is gone,
his tent is gone, and all their

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belongings are gone. They start questioning
this kid and they're like, you know,

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where's your mom? This little kid
just points towards the trees. Apparently

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this kid's mom packed up all their
stuff went out on our own hike in

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the middle of the night. I'm
thinking, this is, uh, you

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know, mom of the air material
here? Why would someone do that?

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We formed a search party. Everybody's
coming together, like, all right,

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we're going to go look for this
lady. As we're walking towards the big

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group that's going on the search,
the art ranger walks by me and Sam,

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and he says some slick comments to
me, saying, you better hope

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we find her, because if we
don't, it's on you. At this

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point, I'm pretty pissed because this
is this strange guy, this is really

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weird guys telling me about this mythical
stairs, and now he's trying to blame

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me for this mom packing up her
stuff and leaving in the middle of the

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night. Sam asks why would he
say something like that to you? Which

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I get his confusion. Why would
somebody blame somebody for eating up and leaving

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in the middle of the night on
me? So I filled him in on

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the mythology of these staircases this ark
ranger had told me. Sam's face is

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expressing to me that he believes the
ranger and not me. I was being

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a little sarcastic about it, but
Sam seemed pretty serious. He tells me,

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I think we should probably check by
the stairs. Luckily, the search

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party is kind of directed towards the
area anyways, because we don't think this

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lady's going to go very far off
the trail. So like, all right,

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maybe she went back to the lodge. Maybe she was done with the

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campsite there, you know, there's
no sign of her. We didn't see

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anything at first. We're walking down
the trail that we came in, but

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once we get to the clearing,
this lady is sitting cross legged exactly where

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the stairs were. At this point, I'm a little freaked out. Well,

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I'm also like, of course she's
sitting there, like is she in

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on this as well? Like what's
going on here? Why is this lady

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sitting cross legged exactly where the stairs
were? And the stairs aren't there anymore?

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Then my mind starts going like why
am I in this weird situation?

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Where is this weird park ranger?
Are they in hoots with each other?

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Something deranged going on? As this
person crazy, Me and Sam jog up

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to her, there's already people next
to her by this point, and as

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we're approaching her, I see their
clothes are tattered. Mind you, she's

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only been going like an hour and
a half stops and her clothes are all

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tattered. She looks like she got
dragged through the forest. She looks like

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bear girls after a week in Siberia
by himself eating earthworms. She looks sleep

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deprived. She looks like she hasn't
had food or water in a while.

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Her eyes are giving like a psychosis
kind of look to it. We get

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up to her and people already asking
her a question. One lady's like,

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what happened? Are you okay?
And she's just rocking back and forth.

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She says, what took you guys
so long? And the guy that's there,

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he says, don't worry, it's
only been like an hour. You

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need something to drink, and you're
safe now, and she just starts mumbling,

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it's been days. It's been days. Right then, I thought,

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okay, she is she crazy.
They're still question her, but she's not

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even answering their questions at this point. She's just kind of talking and mumbling

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to herself. I got a few
sentences as she mumbled out, it told

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me you'd come. It told me
i'd be safe by the stairs. Are

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you kidding me? It told me
you'd come. It told me i'd be

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saved by the stairs. The stairs
aren't even here. How does she even

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know that there were stairs here?
At this point, starting to believe the

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park ranger, I started to feel
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this woman is in this deranged fit, sitting here in this clearing, the

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reality of the situation is starting to
hit me, and we get this lady

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up. We have to take her
back to the campsite because we can't take

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her to the lodge. We can't
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to get back to the campsite where
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is. All right, So that's
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what we just went through here.
So they went camping. Sam and his

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friend with camping to Michigan an hiking
trip and not their first hike out into

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the woods, they see this staircase
perfectly Pristine's staircase. Some reason, he

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feels like he needs to go touch
the stairs. He's getting this feeling.

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It's attracting him. It seems to
be glowing. Even he runs up steps

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on the first step, his friend
Sam pulls him off. He's like,

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why the heck did you pull me
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He said, you're having a seizure. But to him, he just felt

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like he was almost having this outer
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just a weird sense of feeling.
As they're going back the park ranger somehow,

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he tells the park ranger about this, and the park ranger is very

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upset that he stepped on the steps. And at first he's confused, thinking,

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like, why is this guy so
upset upset that I stepped on these

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steps? Like it's this a national
landmark? Of these steps important? Are

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they significant? He says, I'm
not worried about the steps. It's something

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didn't happen to you, something happened
to somebody else. As we get into

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part two of this store, I
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on the second part of part one, we discovered that the next morning and

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early morning, they found out I
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that one of the campers there was
missing. It was a child's mom was

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missing. They went into the woods, and this is where I'm gonna I

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don't want to mix it up,
Jack. They found her where the steps

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were, yes, right, but
they weren't there. Now the steps are

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not there. What was she saying? She was saying some weird things about

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this. Yeah, you're saying,
uh, you know, it took took

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forever to find her. It took
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it was only about an hour or
so. She was saying that something told

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her she waked by the steps and
that they'd be safe there, and she

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looked like you, she has just
been dragged around and been in the woods

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for days, been in the wood
for days, ragged, tired in Hungary.

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In reality, she's only been in
the woods for a few hours at

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tops, and she wasn't far into
the woods right now, not from where

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they were, because they had just
gotten there from campsite. So that's where

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we left off here. We'll get
into a party here in a minute.

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But what's your guys feelings here?
When you first read through part one of

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this, I think that people are
actually pretty rational, you know, like,

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yeah, if you see some steps
in the woods, he'd be very

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tempted to be like, well,
I want to get up on those steps.

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I kind of check those out.
Unless you heard about this being a

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saying both different places like we have
before, and so like this does make

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sense for them to do this,
as he said. And also I feel

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like even the ranger, even though
he's kind of like scared of this happening,

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he wasn't too aggressive with how he
handled the situation. He was like,

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did you do this? Just tell
me right now? The way we

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know what's going on next? And
so I thought this is kind of a

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Yeah, like Jack said, pre
rational reactions by everybody so far, you

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put yourself in the person's shoes.
They had this happen to him, though.

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It probably seems like the ranger's acting
a little bit odd and he's so

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worried about these stairs. Yeah,
but the size of the woods and the

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amount of people there, the ranger
couldn't be everywhere at once, so therefore

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he didn't able to stop that.
But I guess that's something. Do you

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bring that up beforehand or is that
actually going to make somebody step on the

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stairs? You know? Yeah,
I would definitely, you know, increase

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the temptation, But also I do
wonder, well, rather not wonder.

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But it does seem to line up
with what most park rangers or search and

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rescue teams say, is it's like
just kind of leave the stairs alone.

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They don't really get it into it
too much. So and we're going to

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dive back into the story here.
Luke's gonna pick things back up. Luke,

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are you ready we get this lady
up started talking walking her back.

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Sam and I are a little bit
ahead of the three others that had found

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her. As we're walking back,
she's just rambling to herself in a really

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light voice, saying, it said
this, It said that. People who

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were with her were just trying to
console her. They were saying, hey,

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it's gonna be okay. Your son's
at the campsite. A really light

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voice, she says, son.
Everybody's being very gentle with her. She's

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been through a while, so nobody's
saying, oh, she's a number,

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her son is. At this point, the lady doesn't even know her own

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name her Her eyes are absolutely deranged. One of the group says, yes,

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yes, your son. She just
stairs and says, what's his name?

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Oh, your son? His name
is Nick. He's just giving her

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the answers that she needs to get
back to reality. She said. He's

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doing a great job consoling her.
As we're walking back, the guilt of

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me is rising, and all I
can think about is how much I want

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to apologize to this park ranger being
kind of just earlier, I was brushing

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him off about everything he said would
happened. It's a long walk. I

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have a lot of time to think
about when I'm going to say to them.

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Right when I see him, he
sees the woman and I swear to

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God, this man exhales for the
first size as I met him. He's

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so relieved that she's alive. I
walked right up to him. I just

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started apologizing. Tom. I fully
believe him. I'm sorry I did this.

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That's what I can do to help. He just kind of apologized for

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being hard on me. As he's
walking away, he says, I just

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needed you to know how serious this
situation is. Sorry for taking out you.

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I just hate finding dead kids.
That hit me like a bomb because

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he knew something horrible was going to
happen. He didn't know if it was

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going to be an adult or a
kid. He said it as if it's

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happened before, and that he's had
to find kids like that, and the

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idea of finding a kid in the
same state that she's in was absolutely heartbreaking.

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So at this point, we're trying
to get this lady better before her

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kid comes back from the excursion that
they all went on. We clean her

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up, get her food and water, and get her some new clothes,

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trying to get her back to normal
so the kid doesn't come back and see

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his mom and this horror will stay. Afterwards, we're just sitting around the

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campsite. She's all cleaned up and
looking a bit better. She's just sitting

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there at her hands folding her lap
and her knees touching each other, just

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sitting very delicately. She kind of
just looking around, still very spacey.

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She's not talking to anybody. She's
mumbling to herself a little bit, but

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she seems a little bit more put
together, a little bit more calm.

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She's pretty happy that she's back at
the campsite. As the kids are coming

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back, the entire group is kind
of expecting this big reunion moment. Everyone's

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expecting a warm embrace. We're all
happy, everything's okay. And when the

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kids come back, the son walked
up at the end of the camp everybody's

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looking at her, and everybody kind
of goes silent for this embrace. She

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looks up and she kind of sees
that everybody's looking at her. It's almost

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like she took it as a que
and she scans the kids and says,

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Nick, just really gently, we
go look at the kid, and the

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kid's scowling at his mom, like
he's looking at a stranger that he doesn't

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like. He gestures kind of like
a shrug and then she stops scanning kids

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and she locks in on him.
She almost stands up like a machine,

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just very robotically, no waste of
movements, and she lifts her hands slightly.

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She's inviting him to come give her
a hug, instead of coming to

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give him her coming to give him
a hug. The kids starts backing up,

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he starts crying. She says,
that's not my mom anymore. What

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my dad runs off. Now.
I look around the group. It feels

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so awkward and tense. Almost didn't
unfold how we're expecting. And everybody has

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this kind of sadness on their face. And I look and I see the

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park rangers face, and he's looking
at the woman like this. His world

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is being tore apart. He's more
anxious that seeing this entire time. And

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the woman of the campsite immediately go
up to the mom, trying to console

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tell her that the kids react to
trauma in different ways. He'll get over

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it and it's gonna be okay.
Her face is expressionless, as if she's

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not even hearing these women and just
looking right past them, and her eyes

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are just falling the kid. Everyone
else in the campsite starts dispersing because it's

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a very tense moment, except for
the park ranger. I see him talking

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to the camp guide. I seek
behind the east drop a little bit see

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what he's saying, and he's telling
the camp guide to tell call the father,

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telling him to come pick them both
up tomorrow. I can kind of

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tell that the camp guy is not
in the know because the way he's saying

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it to him. He's saying,
she does seeing fit to drive. He's

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talking as if he's not aware of
the gravitiest situation. The camp guide says

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yes and walks off. I was
still standing behind him, and he just

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sparks out come here. That's one
of those moments where you're like when you're

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sitting in the back of class messing
around and your teacher's writing on the white

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board and they call out your name
without even looking at you. Sent chills

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out my spine. I just immediately
walk up to the ranger and say,

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what do you want me to do? I'm in full soldier mode at this

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point in time, because this is
my fault. I want to help,

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I want to fix things. He
starts speaking to me very firmly. His

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eyes are completely locked in on the
mom. He's not even looking at me.

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He then says, all keep eyes
on her. You take care of

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the kid. The father can't get
here until tomorrow. By no means that

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she interact with this kid until he
gets here. Do you understand me.

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He doesn't want to lie to this
kid. He has to entertain him.

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Mind you, He's been working with
kids forever. So then he says,

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at this point, I know that
I had to build up a comfortable relationship

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with the kid, which I wasn't
worried about. When I get to Nick,

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he's playing bags with himself off to
the side. I just walk up

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and I say, best two out
of three. I start cracking jokes.

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It's easy to make kids laugh,
It's easy to make kids forget what's going

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on. We're having a pretty good
time until one of the other kids walks

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up and put both of his hands
over his face. Are you gonna cry

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again? And starts laughing and runs
off. I look at Nick and I

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ask what was that about? Nick
says, I told him who my mom

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left with last night. I asked, who did your mom leave with last

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night? He told me he saw
her holding hands with a man as she

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walked into the forest last night.
What did he look like? And Nick

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just holds up his thumbs and rubs
it and says, his face looked like

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this. I have no clue what
that means, so I immediately start asking

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follow up questions. What color was
his skin, what was he wearing?

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And Nick just goes he was completely
pale. I said, did he have

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any distinguished facial features, like his
eyebrows with a bushy, bright eyes,

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big nose, anything like that.
He told me he didn't have any of

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those at all, no features at
all. I'm thinking, apparently there's some

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weirdo walking around in a mask drawing
women in the woods in the middle of

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the night. Inside I'm freaking out, but I don't want to. I

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don't want Nick to see that,
so I start reassuring him, letting him

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know that he's safe and we're not
going to let that man hurt you.

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He's not coming back. I want
to keep distracting him and giving him a

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fun time, but I need to
go report this back to Sam, so

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I make an excuse to go back
to the tent. I give Sam a

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nods signaling we need to talk.
The second the tent zips close and I'm

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about to start speaking about everything,
all this new information I just learned about.

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Sam cuts me off. I go, I have so much to tell

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you, he said me. First, he has a guilty look on his

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face and says to me, I've
been spying on her. And I know

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this is gonna sound weird, really
weird, but I was in the group

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with her. And you know when
people are in a group in that moment

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when everybody starts laughing and then one
person is left laughing when everybody else has

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stopped, Well, that happened.
She was a last one laughing, and

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I looked at her, and for
a split second, she was still laughing,

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but her mouth was closed and she
wasn't moving at all. Nobody else

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saw it but me, and it
irked me so bad. I haven't been

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able to stop watching this woman,
or leaf make sure she's not been left

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alone with the rest of the day. I've been spying on her the entire

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time. I'll be honest. I
wasn't fully sold on this idea, so

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I asked, Okay, like Sam, what has she been doing? He

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replied, When there's nobody around her, she sits motionless, motionless, And

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I'm not talking about relaxing. I'm
talking about this woman is not moving at

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all. I said, what do
you mean if nobody's around, you've been

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following her around. He then holds
up a pair of binoculars, and I

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could tell he was a little proud
to show me of the commitment he had

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to do this spy work. And
then he says, I've been watching her

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with these. I watched her for
thirty minutes straight. She did not move,

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she did not blink, she was
not breathing. She looked like an

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empty vessel. And then when somebody
walks near her, she starts blinking.

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Then she forces out a weird smile. She starts looking around as if she's

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taking in nature, and then she
starts fake breathing. Imagine a mime pret

407
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:23.599
pretending like he's breathing, and then
holding back saying anything more. So I

408
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.480
told him, bro, just spit
it out. I can tell you have

409
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.200
something more to say. As he
went quiet, he explained, you know,

410
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.319
you know how she was saying,
it's telling her to do this,

411
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:38.359
it's telling her to do that.
I don't think it's it telling her to

412
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:42.039
do anything. I think she is
the it. I don't even get a

413
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.480
feeling Sam about all the smooth faced
man stuff that Nick had told me before.

414
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.519
He says, we got to tell
the ranger right now. I got

415
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.519
up and followed. We walked up
to the ranger and Sam just starts pouring

416
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.680
his heart out about all the evidence
that he's found throughout the day, and

417
00:27:55.720 --> 00:28:00.640
the ranger was listening, patiently,
nodding, And then right when when Sam

418
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.759
finished, the ranger says, don't
worry, boys, we're on the same

419
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.839
page. There's no chance I'm letting
that thing leave my park. There's no

420
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.200
way I'm letting that thing leave my
park. I'm thinking, did you just

421
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.400
say that thing if she possessed?
The ranger goes on, You guys have

422
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:19.039
no idea how lucky we are that
the kid doesn't trust her. It is

423
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.880
critical, absolutely critical. We do
not let it get out of the park

424
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.640
and the only way you can get
out of the park is if it manipulates

425
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.079
a loved one to escort it out
of the park. We have to keep

426
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.640
Nick away from her. We have
to keep them completely separated until the dad

427
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.519
gets here tomorrow morning. I already
told the camp guide to send all the

428
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.240
kids paddle boating for the remainder of
the day, so it has no chance

429
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:42.880
of talking to him for the rest
of the day. You need to monitor

430
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:45.960
her. And then when that kid
gets back before the sun goes down,

431
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:51.720
you need to get him to his
tent immediately. This is what we gotta

432
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:55.079
do. We'll be home free once
the father gets here tomorrow morning. So

433
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:59.559
before I even get to really digest
any of this new information that's just been

434
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.440
my way, me and Sam hustle
back to the common area just to keep

435
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.440
an eye on her to make sure
she's not running off. When we get

436
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.039
back there, we see she's not
dormant anymore. She's a little bit more

437
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:17.000
active today, and she's walking around
the campsite asking different group of campers they've

438
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.480
seen her son. All the campers
are still being nice and gentle with her

439
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:25.319
because they kind of know what's happened. They're just telling her all the kids

440
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.160
went pattle voating, it's fine,
they'll be back later. But by the

441
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:33.519
third time her asking each group,
you could tell you could tell and kind

442
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.119
of see that the campers were getting
a little bit annoyed to frustrated with her.

443
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:38.839
She goes back up to this one
group to ask them for the fourth

444
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:44.279
or fifth time and one burly country
looking dude kind of blurts out, kind

445
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.640
of in a jokingly manner, that
dad getting here tomorrow won't come soon enough,

446
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.079
Am I right? Then his wife
or girlfriend hits him on the shoulder

447
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.599
and told it, sorry, he's
being rude, honey, be patient.

448
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.640
The morning will come very quickly.
Then it starts repeating what the lady said,

449
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.119
as if it was taking in new
information and formulating a new question to

450
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.119
ask. It repeats itself three times, my husband's going to be here in

451
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:07.640
the morning. My husband's going to
be here in the morning. My husband's

452
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.279
going to be here in the morning. And then she looks back at the

453
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.079
group and asks, do you know
what time my husband's going to be here

454
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.519
in the morning? And they shook
their heads no. She walked away,

455
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:21.039
but a little bit more frantic this
time. I don't really know how to

456
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:22.519
explain it, but the only way
I can explain it is that she turned

457
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.960
more like to an active panic,
as if she knows it's crunch time.

458
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:33.200
She only has one day to convince
this kid to take her home. She

459
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.519
continues to walk group to group,
just repeating herself, do you know what

460
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:38.559
time my husband's going to get here, you know what time my husband's gonna

461
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:44.039
get here. It literally walks around
asking the same question, getting the same

462
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:49.839
answers. So, just to recap, then the sun's freaking out when he

463
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.480
sees her completely. That's not my
mom anymore. That is not my mom.

464
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.720
They start looking into this more.
They being in the park ranger,

465
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.319
him and his friend. They're all
realizing how the thing is acting weird,

466
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:06.720
almost like a demonic force in somebody's
body, trying to figure out what's going

467
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.000
on. Doesn't really know who her
son is, doesn't know the situation,

468
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.920
asking a lot of questions, trying
to get answers. They've called the dad

469
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.440
to come pick the boy up tomorrow
and they have a game plan to completely

470
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:22.119
separate the two until the morning,
because the park rangers fear is this thing

471
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:27.400
can leave the park only if it's
able to manipulate a loved one to take

472
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.319
it home, and then from there, we don't know what terrible things would

473
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:37.160
happen. Yeah, and the park
rangers like general attitude is like he's seen

474
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.319
this before. Yeah, he seems
like this isn't the crazy to him,

475
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.200
Like it's like he's been in this
situation before. It's definitely seeing a thing

476
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.359
or two. By this point,
it's kind of like it goes back to

477
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.960
the same thing we talked about,
this stairs in the woods. Apparently this

478
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:55.799
happens, these mysterious stairs in the
woods, and they're dangers. They're dangerous,

479
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:59.400
forced to be dealt with. Yeah, it's pretty messed up. The

480
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:04.720
part where it's repeating itself over and
over again that that's generally junior really terrifying,

481
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.160
but it's doing it again as if
it needs to collect this and like

482
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:13.400
it has to process it figure out
what to mimic and act and do next,

483
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.440
right, because it's like just sitting
there when no one's watching it and

484
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:22.319
it's not doing anything. Yeah,
it's just kind of yeah, it's just

485
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.440
like whatever someone talks to it,
it starts to just behave like they're behaving

486
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:30.000
or something like that. It's just
to pretend to be human. I guess.

487
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:31.559
Yeah. It's like not even breathing
when nobody's near it. It's not

488
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:35.680
even moving and it's not doing anything. Then as somebody comes to your bike,

489
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.759
it comes alive and then like almost
like it snaps into character or something.

490
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:44.119
Jack, you want to pick the
story back up here. Okay,

491
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:49.000
the sun starts coming down and the
kids start coming home from battle boarding.

492
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.640
We're coming up on dinner time and
everybody meets in the common area to eat.

493
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:58.799
We can't just obviously keep a mom
separate from her kid without other campers

494
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:04.480
getting really suspicious. So me and
Sam go meet with Nick before he re

495
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:08.000
enters the campsite because we just want
to avoid this situation entirely. If we

496
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:14.319
just get through this part, we
get him in his tent and they we're

497
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:20.119
home free. We got the kids
safe, and we're all good. So

498
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:23.960
we're just assuming that if fall,
maybe it'll follow the herd, you know,

499
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:29.519
go get food like everyone else is
getting food. We could just get

500
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:36.720
Nick to his tent and we'll be
set. So I have Sam go make

501
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.200
a couple of plates of food for
us while we escort Nick to his tent.

502
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:46.440
But within a couple of minutes,
while Sam was getting our food and

503
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:52.839
I'm getting to the tent, it
must have slipped away, because when we

504
00:33:52.920 --> 00:34:01.000
get to Nick's tent, he and
zips it this thing that listens or it's

505
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:07.559
just not his Mom immediately pops out
and grabs him by the arms and says,

506
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.440
you're not gonna leave without mommy.
I wish I could say I did

507
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:14.400
something heroic, but I had just
let out a little bit of scream and

508
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.159
a double hand gripped Nick's string backpack
because I don't want to risk touching this

509
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.199
thing, and I swung him behind
me really hard because I was trying to

510
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.480
get him. He wasn't trying to
get into like a cup of war with

511
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.880
this thing. When I tell you, in this moment, I was mortified

512
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:34.079
because I was the only thing in
between her and Nick. I felt fight

513
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.440
or flight gripping in. I had
to remind myself that this isn't a woman,

514
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:43.880
and if it takes a step forward, I'm not flying. I'm standing

515
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:50.880
here. The only words I could
get out were are you good? And

516
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:57.119
then it just said kind of softly
and menacing. We need a long time.

517
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:02.519
Don't make me scream eybark at Nick
to go get the ranger, because

518
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:07.519
the only thing I want at this
moment is authority. Figure here is like

519
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:12.199
me, but I have no idea
what the thing is. So Nick books

520
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.039
it and I'm just kind of frozen
there staring at this thing, waiting for

521
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.920
it to scream and make me look
like maybe like a creep or something.

522
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.360
In front of the entire camp,
But it just stands there for a few

523
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.000
moments with its eyes staring around like
it's searching for something in its head,

524
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:30.360
almost as if it's trying to remember
something. And just like that, its

525
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.199
eyes lock onto me, and I
brace myself because I think it's gonna let

526
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:40.119
out this horrific scream. I was
expecting the scene that this thing is about

527
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:45.840
to make when it finally explodes into
a scream, but that's not what happens.

528
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.679
You know. I get a little
confused and almost a little bit relieved,

529
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.960
because in that moment, I realized
that this thing only mimics sounds.

530
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:59.960
This thing has no gauge of human
inflection or social cues, because the scream

531
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:06.599
that it did didn't match the situation. I expected to scream in horror,

532
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.519
as if it was accusing me of
attacking her or something, but instead it

533
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:17.119
screams as as like a little girl
was playing. I peak for a quick

534
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.559
second, just kind of see the
camper's reactions, and I get a little

535
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.159
bit relieved, just because I see
a few of them are actually rolling their

536
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:29.960
eyes at this point. They think
really fed up with this person's behavior.

537
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.599
And the slight relief that I had
disappears immediately when I look back at it,

538
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:38.559
because it abruptly stopped screaming. I
could tell it didn't. It's almost

539
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:43.239
like it couldn't. It understood that
it wasn't working. Whatever it was trying

540
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:47.280
to do, it wasn't working.
And its chin tucks in a little bit

541
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:52.519
and starts looking at me at the
top of its eyes as if it's honing

542
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.719
in on me. And the adrenaline
my chest starts pumping because I don't know

543
00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:02.840
what this thing's going to run away
or attack. It almost looked a bit

544
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:07.960
happy about how scared I was.
He gave a little bit of a smirk

545
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:15.559
and replied, are you good in
my voice with his mouth closed, exactly

546
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.159
how I had just said it to
them. It did it as if it

547
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:22.679
was threatening me. If I get
in the way of her leaving with Nick,

548
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:29.079
it could mimic me and leave with
Sam. That moment felt like it

549
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:34.480
lasted forever. Finally I felt somebody
grab my shoulder. I looked back at

550
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:38.599
it. It's the ranger. He
has this confidence in his face that he's

551
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.880
about to just handle the situation,
which makes me feel a lot safer.

552
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.119
He loudly says, don't let this
thing intimidate you. It could only take

553
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:51.280
your form if it could put you
in a trance. And the only way

554
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:54.119
he could put you in a trance
is if you're a neebrid He didn't drink

555
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:59.239
anything tonight, right, I just
nod my head no, I mean no,

556
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.079
I then you're good. And he
looks at her and just says,

557
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:05.679
go to sleep, your husband's going
to be here in the morning, and

558
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.960
brushes her off. Her eyes light
up as if she likes what he just

559
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:15.800
said, and she almost scurries back
into her tent. And as we're walking

560
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:19.840
away, I hear repeating to herself, almost joyfully, my husband is going

561
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.840
to be here in the morning.
My husband's going to be here in the

562
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.119
morning. We start walking away and
I see Sam walking up with the plates

563
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.599
of food. We look on his
face was like, you know, hey,

564
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.960
what happened. The ranger tells me
and Sam to come eat dinner with

565
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:38.480
him, that we deserve a little
bit of an explanation. While we're walking

566
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:42.920
where we usually eat dinner, a
little bit away from the campers, I

567
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.159
see Nick in between two camp guys
and he's safe. So I'm a little

568
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.440
bit more relaxed at this point,
and the questions start flowing in my head.

569
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:53.719
Then I'm about to ask this guy
because I've got thousands. We sit

570
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:58.880
down. The first question that comes
to my head is, so you know

571
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:05.159
what that thing is? Then Ranger
says, kind of all the other rangers

572
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.760
call a mimic. I've heard plenty
of stories about them. I've only had

573
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:15.239
one other personal experience with it.
My working theory is that interacting with the

574
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:22.559
stairs almost calls to them. Whenever
the Stairs are involved, it feels like

575
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:27.159
it attracts everything. We're very fortunate
that we had a lucky draw with the

576
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:31.280
mimic because it could have been something
so much worse. I immediately think,

577
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:36.960
if we're lucky with this thing,
what else is in this park? The

578
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.440
ranger just keeps going on with the
story. So what we do know is

579
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:46.039
these things think target people that are
under the influence of something. The last

580
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:52.599
time I had to deal with it
one it tricked this hippie guy that came

581
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.400
here by himself. He was an
easy target and I was the one.

582
00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:00.400
I saw him walk into the forest
with it. I thought about chase them

583
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.840
and interveniing, but once they hit
the tree line, it's almost like they

584
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:08.239
dissolved into the woods. Think to
myself, that's exactly what Nick told me.

585
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:15.440
So this ranger is definitely onto something. The ranger goes on and says

586
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.679
when the hippie wandered back into the
camp, he knew it definitely wasn't him

587
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.719
because he was talking really formal,
and this guy was the opposite of formals.

588
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:29.719
Everything he did was laid back,
chill, hippie vibe. We came

589
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:35.599
back very eloquently, asking very specific
questions in a monotone way. I knew

590
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:40.800
something was wrong. Started walking around
the camp asking everybody who he came here

591
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:44.800
with, and he was trying to
figure out if he had any loved ones

592
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:50.360
or family nearby before he got taken
by this thing. He was very open

593
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:53.920
with me and everybody else that he
was a traveling nomad and he had nobody

594
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:59.639
really significant in his life in general. And when all the other campers started

595
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:04.159
there high back to the lodge,
he wouldn't leave the campsite, and I

596
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:08.039
told him I couldn't leave the campsite
without everyone, and he was my responsibility.

597
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:12.960
He said, he can't leave the
campsite without somebody that loves him.

598
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.199
He got really frantic. It was
pleaded with me to call someone for him.

599
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:20.639
I told him that he need to
put any eye on his emergency contact

600
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.440
for him. There was nobody to
call or ever seeing the feet on his

601
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.519
face. The last thing that sent
to me is I ran out of time,

602
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:32.400
and that he backed towards the tree
line. It's almost of his face

603
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:37.760
dissolved and he struggled up and became
part of the forest. And two days

604
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.599
later we randomly found that hit be
at the bottom of a pit about a

605
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:47.639
mile off the campsite. The autopsy
said died of starvation two days earlier.

606
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.039
So it's my assumption that these things
can't survive without a living hosts. They

607
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.639
trick you, then they trap you, then they mimic you, and they

608
00:41:55.679 --> 00:42:00.199
try to commendment somebody to take them
home. Seems like they can't leave the

609
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:05.559
park unless somebody loves them escorts them
out. The way she's been acting almost

610
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:08.679
confirms that with me, because it
seems like she's been abided by the same

611
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.519
rules. But we let this thing
out and he gets this city or town.

612
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:16.800
We have no idea how much standwards
this thing could do. I cut

613
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:20.480
him off and I asked him,
how were we going to get the husband

614
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:24.119
to leave this lady. He confidantly
says, let me handle that. We

615
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:29.159
just see a focus on getting Nick
to the lodge and trapping that thing here,

616
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.920
so to focus on finding the real
her while she's still alive. Sam

617
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.360
stands up says we're going to extract
Nick at six hundred, make the handoff

618
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:43.519
the father, and we orchestrate a
grid style search party starting east to the

619
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:47.519
campsite. When Nick leaves. That
gives approximately ten hours a shurch sight before

620
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.559
the sun up goes down. Sam
kinds what the switch started to taking control

621
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:57.679
of the situation, because as core, he's a tactical minded, a well

622
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:02.039
trained army ranger. He was an
armyer for about ten years. The park

623
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:06.960
ranger says, we're coming up on
day three. If we don't fight her

624
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:12.039
tomorrow, we might not find her
alive. He dismisses us and tells us

625
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.239
to get some rest. So me
and Sam just clear our plates really quick

626
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.119
to get some calories. Then we
hustled back to our tents so we can

627
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:23.000
get as much sleep as possible before
the morning search. But once we get

628
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.920
back to the tent, I'm just
lying there with my eyes open. I've

629
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.400
had a really tough time sleeping.
I just keep thinking about her repeating with

630
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.239
my voice. I just can't get
that image on my head. Hear my

631
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.280
own voice being spoken to me.
Can't express to you how eerie it is

632
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:44.079
to hear your own voice when it's
not coming from recording. And Sam knew

633
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.239
exactly what I was thinking. He
just blurred out, porcupine. I said,

634
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:52.360
what if that's our code word,
porcupine if any point we get split

635
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:57.199
up or something crazy happens. You
just asked you what code word is,

636
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.519
so you know it's me has set
to be. I recognize you. Sure

637
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.039
gives me just enough relief to fall
asleep, but it sure did not stop

638
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:10.599
me from having nightmares all night.
Wow, that's creepy as hell. It

639
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:15.440
sounds like, though, that they
finally feel as if they have the situation

640
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:22.559
under control. They have a plan
in place. Yes, this thing needs

641
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:28.159
to be taken home by someone that
loves it. That's what the creature's plan

642
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:32.760
is. So they're trying to find
what they believe is like the host body,

643
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.440
right, they're trying to find the
actual mother. Yes, well,

644
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.760
it's still a lot, and in
order to do that, they have to

645
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:45.360
continue to keep these two apart because
in the morning the next part I'm about

646
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.000
to get into, the father is
coming, and when the father gets there,

647
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.280
they got to get back to the
lodge. They got to get the

648
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.320
kid with the father and get him
out of here so he's out of danger.

649
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:58.280
And at that point in time,
the thing is going to really struggle

650
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:04.159
to leave these woods without being able
to attach itself to a loved one.

651
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:08.119
So they're planned in place. They
are going to get up in the morning.

652
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:13.920
First thing, get that kid across
the camp the forest to the excuse

653
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.639
me, the campground, through the
forest to the lodge, get it with

654
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:20.440
his dad, and then they have
to go find the real mother in the

655
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.960
woods then to go from there.
They did establish a safety word. They

656
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:29.559
said, hey, if something happens
to us tomorrow, if we get split

657
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:32.159
up, the safety word is porcupine. The reason they established the safety word

658
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.239
is, like I said, because
this thing's a mimic, right. They

659
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.719
don't know when it's that it somehow
became the host of your body, your

660
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:44.880
mind. So they have a plan
in place. At least here. It

661
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:46.880
doesn't even need to look like you, just sound like you. It could

662
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:52.039
look like someone else and still sound
like you. So it's like extra scary

663
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.039
because it could be anywhere. Yeah, it's so freaky. What it copied

664
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:58.280
his repeated his voice, I mean
what he said in his exact voice.

665
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.480
That's that's absolutely and saying I don't
know, all right, I'm gonna start

666
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:06.920
storry back up in the next morning. I abruptly woke up the next morning

667
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.000
right as the sun was coming up, and I saw Sam was already getting

668
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.880
ready, so I jumped up to
catch up. Because every moment that we're

669
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.480
still here, the woman is still
out there in the wood suffering. I

670
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:20.639
get ready like I'm late for the
first day of school. Rangers already at

671
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.360
the edge of the campsite with a
appears to be groggy, tired Nick.

672
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.079
All of us climb into one of
those off roading golf carts. Thank god

673
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.840
we had a vehicle, because I
was not looking forward to a fifteen mile

674
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.559
hike there and back and then joining
a search party. Me and see them

675
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:43.039
jogg up, and we just hopped
the back seat quietly because we're trying to

676
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:46.880
execute this mission and get this over
with. When the ranger turns on the

677
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:53.800
engine, we hear we hear a
zip come from a tent. The zippers

678
00:46:53.880 --> 00:47:00.599
being opened, and it comes storming
out of her tent towards our cart.

679
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:05.360
We start driving away and it's a
little downhill the hole as we descend,

680
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.320
so once we are about thirty feet
away, you can't see over the ridge

681
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:13.199
there anymore, but you could see
her storming up to the edge of the

682
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.840
trail and just stand there. This
woman looked very angry that we lied to

683
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.599
her. She stands dead center of
the trail for about five seconds, then

684
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.519
she just turns and sprints into the
tree line. Sam sees it and asks,

685
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:27.760
where do you think she went?
The ranger cuts us off and says,

686
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.559
keep your head on a swivel.
She's getting desperate. We're driving for

687
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.679
about ten minutes and the trail continues
to get more and more narrow as we

688
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.199
go. It's about a five miles
stretch or the trees are just about three

689
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:43.360
feet away from each side of the
cart, and for the next five miles

690
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.679
we find out exactly where she went. She was periodically popping out of the

691
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:51.719
tree line, screaming things at Nick, Mommy loves you, Take mommy home.

692
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:57.280
Where's your father? She just continued
to scream and cry, please don't

693
00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.360
leave me, Please, don't leave
me. She never made it a tempt

694
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:02.840
on the vehicle. It just seemed
like she was tracking us and following us

695
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:07.559
and continuing to try and manipulate Nick. But let me tell you, it

696
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:12.119
never got less creepy that she was
always ahead of us. And finally we

697
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.800
get to the lodge and we see
the father out front, standing outside of

698
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:20.960
his truck, looking pretty confused and
frustrated. We tactically pull up neck to

699
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.519
the truck, planning to get Nick
into his vehicle as soon as possible and

700
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:27.039
as quickly to get him out of
there. But the second we stop,

701
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:29.840
Nick jumps out of the vehicle and
runs his dad, crying, see and

702
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:31.920
I want to go home. His
dad gives him a quick pat on the

703
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:35.559
back and says, don't worry,
I'm taking you home. Wait in the

704
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:39.480
car. I have to talk to
these guys real quick. We walk up

705
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:44.280
and he walks up to excuse us. We're walking up to him, and

706
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:46.800
he says to us, and he
seems very frustrated when he asks this,

707
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:50.480
are you guys gonna tell me why
I had to rush here first thing in

708
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.320
the morning. I have no idea
what we're gonna tell this guy, But

709
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:57.280
we need to get him out of
here as quick as possible. The ranger

710
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.559
steps up and quickly replies the chod
on this campsite needs to be here with

711
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:06.239
a responsible adult. As a father's
asking where the mother is, she pops

712
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:08.519
up out of the woods, completely
out of nowhere. She is hauling it

713
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:13.320
towards us, announcing to everybody,
the whole crowd, there, finally my

714
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.519
husband is here. Finally my husband
is here. She's walking up to him,

715
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.559
starting to approach him, kind of
like maybe like she's looking for a

716
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.119
hug or looking to be embraced.
He puts his hand up and he starts

717
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.119
backing up towards his truck, and
he says, I cannot believe you right

718
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.280
now. She just kind of says
in a sad voice, I just want

719
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.639
my husband to take me home.
He cuts her off immediately. He talks

720
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:37.079
over her and says, Kristen,
don't play that shit. We've been divorced

721
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:42.880
for over a year. He starts
scanning her. He's looking her up and

722
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:46.719
down and with a look of disgust
on his face. And I take a

723
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.960
look at her. She's looking really
drawn out, sleep deprived and exhausted.

724
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.000
In that moment, I can't help
but wonder if she's in mayor of the

725
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:57.679
real Christin. But the father cuts
off my train of thought and says,

726
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.320
you promised me you were done drinking, and I gave you one week alone

727
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:05.000
with him, and you can't keep
yourself together. She gets out a little

728
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.760
bit, a little whimper and says, can you please just take me home?

729
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:12.880
And he says absolutely not. Pull
yourself together and take yourself home.

730
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.599
He then storms to his vehicle and
drives off. I'm thinking, wow,

731
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:21.280
I can't believe this did our job
before us. For a brief second,

732
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.440
it felt like we won, like
a victory. This is until she takes

733
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:28.760
off, sprinting back into the trees. The three of us look at each

734
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.840
other and we all have an understanding
what is happening. She's trying to beat

735
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:35.679
us back to the camp so so
you can switch into somebody else before we

736
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:39.119
get there. That moment of relief
immediately turned into the most bumpy, chaotic

737
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:44.440
off roading experience of my life,
because we have no idea how long it's

738
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:46.000
going to take her to get back, but we know, at even our

739
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:51.280
top speed, it's going to take
us several minutes. The ride back was

740
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:53.000
far too loud for any of us
to talk and have any sort of type

741
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.639
of conversation. So I'm just in
my head thinking, what are we going

742
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.320
to do with her when we get
when we have to go search for the

743
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.760
real christ what's the point in finding
her if we come back and it's a

744
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.480
and it's found a new host already, and we're gonna have to go through

745
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.760
the same process all over again.
When we pull up to the campsite,

746
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:13.719
I was damn near expecting this thing
to be dragging somebody else into the woods,

747
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.119
with how desperate it looked when it
darted towards the tree line end of

748
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:21.719
the woods before we left the area. Come to our surprise, the campsite

749
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:23.719
is completely vacant. Sand just blurts
out, where is everybody? The ranger

750
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:29.960
Filt tells us that he had the
camp guides take everybody onto the pontoons for

751
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.559
a fishing day, so nobody was
at the campsite for her to pray on

752
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.360
while we were gone, but they
might get back before we find the real

753
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:42.079
Christens. So we have to make
this thing come with us on any by

754
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:45.400
any means necessary. We hop off
the call of cart. We are walking

755
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.760
with the with purpose now towards the
campsite, assuming that she's hiding somewhere,

756
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.280
But she's just sitting in the middle
of the campsite on a log by the

757
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:57.239
bonfire, rocking back and forwards.
I see something on the log next to

758
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:00.920
her. As we get closer,
I realized that I'm seeing three crows sitting

759
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.519
on the log next to her.
They're just standing there, perfectly perched up

760
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.480
on this log, with the exact
same spacing between them, as if they're

761
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:13.880
in a form forming something. As
we're walking up, I'm mentally preparing to

762
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:15.840
have to fight this thing and drag
it into the forest with us to search

763
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:22.000
for the real Christin. I could
tell by the way everybody was walking up

764
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.880
that nobody has any idea how this
interaction's gonna go. Assuming she's going to

765
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:30.000
be violent, that's all we could
assume. But I know that I'm prepared

766
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:32.039
to do whatever I have to do
to save the real Christin. I know

767
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:37.079
they are too. The park ranger
sternly says to it, you're coming with

768
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:42.079
us right now. She just keeps
rocking and mumbling. She's mumbling this,

769
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:46.000
do you know what the crows are? Do you know about the crows.

770
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:49.239
He cuts her off immediately. He
says, you're coming in the forest with

771
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:52.000
us right now to find that woman. It looks up at us, almost

772
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:58.679
excited, with real optimistic look on
its face. It's really delicately standing up

773
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:00.559
and starts walking towards the tree line
and says, I'd love to go in

774
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:06.679
the forest with you. Sam immediately
takes charge and says, let's do a

775
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:10.519
triangle formation. Sam points to the
ranger and says, you're at the front,

776
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:15.800
and me and Doug will be on
either side of her. Doug will

777
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:19.280
scan the right, I'll scan the
left, and she'll stay in the middle

778
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.719
of all of us so she can't
get away from us. Me and the

779
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:28.480
ranger are both not sure about this, so the mimic seems okay with this

780
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.760
idea and just takes her place in
the middle of the formation. It makes

781
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:40.320
me very uncomfortable with how willingly she
wants to do this, but we don't

782
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.159
have a choice at this point,
and we need to just go. We

783
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:49.800
started to go into the tree line. I'm trying to do my job and

784
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.880
just keep scanning the right for clues
or you know, where we can find

785
00:53:52.960 --> 00:54:00.360
Christen. But I can't help but
keep checking on her. Sure it's not

786
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:06.119
getting any crazy ideas. But we're
walking about three minutes when I peek back

787
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.400
and there's something different about it.
I take a better look at her,

788
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:15.079
and her face looks full and vibrant, her bags under her eyes are gone,

789
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.800
her posture perfect. She's almost giving
off an aura early similar to the

790
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.800
glow of stairs. The forest is
super dense and there's not a lot of

791
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:28.039
sunlight that gets through the trees.
Sam and the ranger look completely shaded,

792
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:32.360
but she looks like the sunlight is
hitting her. This makes me internally panic

793
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:37.360
because I already didn't like how happy
she was to come in here. I

794
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.480
really don't like that. Once we're
in here, she seems to be thriving.

795
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:46.000
I look away from her, just
to start looking for more clues.

796
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:52.079
As we keep hiking, everything in
the forest starts looking the same. I

797
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:55.480
start to feel a little disoriented and
dizzy, but I just focus on the

798
00:54:55.519 --> 00:55:00.000
trees. Before I know it,
I feel like a lot of time has

799
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:05.079
passed. I'm out of touch with
the situation. It feels like I'm an

800
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:08.840
infinite loop of paranoia, and I
realize I haven't checked on her or anybody

801
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:14.679
else in the group before, it
feels like ours. So when I finally

802
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:19.599
pulled myself together away from the haze, I panned back to the group and

803
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:28.800
the park ranger is standing where she
was in between me and Sam, and

804
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:34.480
she's at the front of the group. Me, Sam, and the ranger

805
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:37.480
are just standing single file behind her. I have no idea when that switch

806
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:42.360
happened. I can tell that Sam
and the ranger haven't realized that which happened

807
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.199
yet. I'm not even looking for
clues at this point. I'm just disoriented

808
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:51.079
and confused, barely remembering why we're
even out here, until the park ranger

809
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.679
shakes his head really hard, like
he's shaking the trance off, and blurts

810
00:55:53.679 --> 00:56:01.119
out stop. He slaps me and
Sam and that yes, stop us from

811
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:05.320
walking. This is the first time
I've seen a real panic in the Ranger's

812
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:09.440
eyes. He starts questioning me and
Sam if we have any idea how long

813
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:13.800
we've been out here or what direction
we went. We all frantically check our

814
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:17.159
watches and phones, but none of
them seemed to be working. She had

815
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:21.880
stopped walking about ten feet ahead of
us and just turned around and calmly looking

816
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:25.599
at us. The ranger storms up
and yells, where'd you take us?

817
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:32.840
Aggressive? Borderline violent? She just
gently replies, I took you where we

818
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:38.559
were meant to go. Silly.
She just lightly lifts her hands and points

819
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:43.679
to her right. We all turn
our gaze and see this massive, hallowed

820
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.360
out tree with a big oval gap
in the front of it, with glass

821
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:52.519
stairs spiraling around the outside of it. There were like the stairs that you

822
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.480
would see in the loft, but
they were sticking out of the bark of

823
00:56:55.519 --> 00:57:00.679
the tree. And I realized that
the real Kristen is sitting in a fetal

824
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:04.960
position, completely motionless, inside the
oval gap, and we're just standing there.

825
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:07.639
I just believe for a moment in
question to start flooding my brain.

826
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.599
Why would this thing take us directly
to Kristen? Is it surrendering? Is

827
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:14.400
it a trap? Was it planning
to lead us here the whole time?

828
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.960
I take a better look at the
tree, and it's giving off some the

829
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.840
same illumination that her in the first
staircase we're given off. I start to

830
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:28.480
get those intrusive thoughts again. I
feel oddly drawn to it, but I

831
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:31.280
know better than to act on them
because of what happened the first time I

832
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:35.840
look back at the other guys to
see their reactions on their faces. But

833
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:37.599
when I look at Sam, the
mimic is right next to them, with

834
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:43.039
her hand on his shoulder, whispering
in his ear. I didn't see this

835
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:45.400
thing walk up to him. I
take a step towards them. Before I

836
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:52.119
get a word out, it whips
his head towards me and says porcupine.

837
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:59.679
Sam's eyes are completely glazed over.
He's just staring at the tree motionless.

838
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:04.199
Takes a slight pause, tilts her
head, takes her hand off his shoulder,

839
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.800
and he immediately starts spreading towards the
tree. He gets a little bit

840
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:12.360
of a head start of me,
but I start chasing him right away because

841
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.679
I could tell this something is off. As we're getting closer to the tree,

842
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:20.159
I can tell he's not spreading towards
Kristen. He's sprinting towards stairs.

843
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:23.199
The direction he's spreading is like five
degrees off from the oval gap. But

844
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:27.760
I close it on him and I
get one hand on his back. I'm

845
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:31.360
slowing him down, but I can't
stop him from getting to the second step

846
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:36.280
of the stairs, and once he
touched it, it felt start. The

847
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:39.440
stairs gave off a vibrating pulse with
each step. It's almost like somebody banging

848
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:44.039
on a drum. I gave my
second hand on and rib him up stairs.

849
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:45.480
I get him to the ground.
I have to restrain him with all

850
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:50.599
my strength because he's trying as hard
as he can get back at these stairs.

851
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:53.039
Sam is not small or feeble by
any means, and I have to

852
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:57.559
use all my strength to restrain him. But he's not fighting me. He's

853
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.880
not hitting me, he's not pushing
me. He's not even looking at me.

854
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:02.840
His eyes are fixated on the stairs, and he's just clawing to get

855
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:06.440
back to them. Gets to the
point where I don't even think I could

856
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:10.800
restrain him any longer, until he
suddenly stops and goes limp. His eyes

857
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:15.199
revert back to normal. He just
looks at me and goes what happened?

858
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:20.360
He seems okay? So I look
to see what stopped him, and I

859
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:25.119
see the ranger pulling Christen out of
the tree. It seems like the moment

860
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:29.800
he pulled her out, he stopped. Me and the ranger look at each

861
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.920
other as to say, what now. We all look back towards the mimic,

862
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:38.719
and this thing had a satisfied devious
look on his face. That wasn't

863
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:43.440
until his face started to fade away
to nothing, and just like the ranger

864
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:46.679
explaining with the hippie, starts to
evaporate, and once it completely disappears,

865
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:51.119
I look back to Sam to see
if he's okay, and he gives me

866
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:57.480
the nod that it's all good.
This is messed up. This is creepy

867
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:01.760
as hell. So this, this
mimic of Kristen with the missing person that

868
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:05.440
they're looking for at this point in
time. Now got the son out of

869
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:13.199
the park safely. This thing leads
them to her. But before doing that,

870
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:17.000
they're all walking along and they somehow
get in this trance where and the

871
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:22.280
person telling the sharing the story says
he's just looking for clues. Then he

872
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:27.719
looks back in the in the strategic
position they were all walking in with him

873
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:30.000
to the left, his friend of
the right, and the park ranger leading

874
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.679
the pack with the with it,
as we're calling it, the mimic in

875
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:37.480
the middle. All of a sudden, when he looks back in this trance,

876
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:43.360
everything's changed. The lineup's changed,
the way they're walking's changed. It

877
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:45.719
was as if she was leading them
where to go. Now, Yeah,

878
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:51.000
she was in the front now and
the ranger was in the center, and

879
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:55.519
they were all following her for an
amount of time unknown amount of time,

880
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:00.719
and it seems like the ranger finally
who this time, is just falling behind,

881
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:02.719
right, they're all just falling her. Now he snaps out of the

882
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:07.119
trance and he says like stop,
taps the other guys on the back or

883
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:08.960
chest or what it said, to
kind of get them out of the trance.

884
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:15.400
And yeah, you get the feeling
that he was just desperate to get

885
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:19.000
them out of that chance because they
said slaps them on the chest. You

886
01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:22.880
can imagine the feeling of like his
desperation at this point, like, you

887
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:27.320
know, he doesn't know how long
they've been walking like this, and he

888
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:31.960
knows something bad happened. The saying
was suddenly leading them. I could feel

889
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:35.760
like when he described it, I
can almost feel the force of like,

890
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:38.440
yeah, that damn just slapping them
across the chest to like knock them their

891
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:45.000
senses back. End. Yeah,
that was a very spooky part of the

892
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:49.119
story. It's this whole part there, but all along she actually led them

893
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.199
to the real person who was sitting
in a walltout area of a tree with

894
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:58.239
a new set of stairs right by
her. So they all start heading towards

895
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:00.079
her. They don't know he actually
he doesn't know him and his friend are

896
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:02.960
heading towards her the stairs. He
knows he's feeling the urge you go to

897
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.400
the stairs, but he's not got
to do that. This time, spread

898
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.719
takes off running on to the stairs, and he has to yank him off.

899
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:13.960
Really an identical situation to what happened
with him earlier, except for I

900
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.960
think his friend made it up an
extra step. And then he's basically holding

901
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:20.880
his friend down that his friend's going
nuts, wants to get right back up,

902
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:22.519
has to get on them stairs in
the woods, And all of a

903
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:27.440
sudden, he just stops, stops
fighting it, stops fighting that urge.

904
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.079
And as soon as he stops,
he looks over and he happens to see

905
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:34.079
that the exact same time where the
park ranger is pulling the real Christen out

906
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:38.559
of the tree. And then this
thing, just like the park ranger said

907
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:43.519
happened with the hippie earlier. They
went missing, and which is you know

908
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:45.159
that the next day they found the
dead body of the hippie and they said

909
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:47.679
it was two days later, which
is creepy enough as it is, but

910
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:52.639
yeah, it just evaporates into the
woods. Yeah, and and le s

911
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:55.000
Ky go back up the hole in
the tree. You know, you've heard

912
01:02:55.039 --> 01:03:01.880
stories of of mimics or changelings.
They're always there's some kind of hole in

913
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:07.360
the tree, kind of connection to
their beginning, their origin, or their

914
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:09.800
birth. Yeah. So, uh, just to see that kind of pop

915
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:14.679
up again, I was like,
yeah, I'm settling even And I think

916
01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:17.559
the the troubling part is even though
the park rangers basically predicted like how this

917
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:22.480
could play out, he still is
powerless, right, and became victim to

918
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:25.559
the trance. And let's not forget
about the creepiest thing about the trance,

919
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:30.800
that is, when Sam realized they're
in the trance, he started walking towards

920
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:36.519
his friend because he saw this mimic
talking in his friend's shoulder. I said,

921
01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:38.159
Sam, right, I met it
wrong his friend of Sam's shoulder,

922
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:40.960
Yeah, I mean it was like
at a hand on the shoulder, right

923
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:45.760
and talking like whispering into Sam's ear, And before he could get close enough,

924
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.559
the thing just whifts its heather out
at him and says this safe word

925
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:53.920
that they established the night before porky. Right, they're laying in the Tan

926
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:57.760
and I and they said, porky, pine is are safe word. If

927
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:01.360
anything happens, we're spread out,
split apart, anything weird happens at all,

928
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:04.719
we will know if each other's okay, if the word for you kinda

929
01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:09.760
said And that's what the mimic just
said to him, right, yeah,

930
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:13.280
yeah, so yeah, I wonder
it was this, you know, was

931
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:16.800
it able to read it mined or
was the you know, mimic listening to

932
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:24.840
them the night before, like nearby? Yeah, it's either way. The

933
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:28.840
creepiest part might be that the mimic
seems happy, like it just accomplished something.

934
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:33.079
Yes, the devious smile they described
her. Jesus, are you ready

935
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:35.599
to pull this back up? Luke? They just found the real prison here

936
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:40.480
and the mimics vanished off into the
woods, evaporated, I think, is

937
01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:45.000
what was said. Yep. So
we immediately start putting all of our attention

938
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:49.199
towards Kristen, a hell around her
and rangers giving her water. We're so

939
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:55.519
relieved. Why she starts slowly regaining
consciousness. It takes about full minute for

940
01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:59.880
her start making sounds of her eyes
starting to open. When she looks going

941
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:03.960
enough. The ranger asks if she's
okay, and she just says, what

942
01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:10.440
took you guys long? It's been
days. The ranger follows up and asks

943
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:14.559
her if she remembers anything. She
barely gets out It told me you'd come,

944
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:18.800
told me i'd be safe by the
stairs. I didn't realize why that

945
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:24.559
rubbed me the wrong way until Sam
whispered to me, that's exactly what the

946
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:30.199
mimic said when we first found it. This realization, to me was absolutely

947
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:35.039
world shattering, because I realized that
we didn't win. It's like the mimic

948
01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:39.119
knew we were going to find her
like this, and it's mocking us from

949
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:45.119
the beginning. Then even more questions
started flooding my mind. Did not want

950
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:47.639
to get out of the park.
What's this motive just to get us back

951
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:55.679
to the stairs. Why this thing
looks so deviously satisfied. We're tending to

952
01:05:55.760 --> 01:06:00.280
Kristen while I'm internally turning these questions
over into my head. She severely just

953
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:05.039
dehydrated and starving, so I really
don't have time to think. We just

954
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:11.920
have her slowly rehydrating from the Ranger's
canteen and nimbling on protein bars. From

955
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.000
Sam's pack. I want to leave
so bad, but we have to wait

956
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:19.000
till she's strong enough to walk herself
for us. Is way too dense for

957
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:23.760
us the carrier, so we just
assist her about thirty one feet away from

958
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:27.360
the stairs because it doesn't feel right
just hanging out right next to them.

959
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:30.840
We have to wait there for about
a half hour. The part of me

960
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:35.000
is very curious to see if the
stairs disappear or transform in any way.

961
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:41.599
We don't start questioning it Kristen immediately
because we want her to just focus on

962
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:45.960
getting better. We all just focused
on being as gentle and consoling as we

963
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:51.280
possibly can. I could tell we
all don't want her to see how shaken

964
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:56.840
up we are, because we just
wanted to feel safe. Once she seems

965
01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:00.800
calm and content enough, we all
kind of huddle up start a game plan.

966
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:03.599
Our phones are working out, and
even though the data is kind of

967
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:08.360
spotty, we could see that we're
only a mile away from the camp.

968
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:12.079
Once I let them know how close
you are, I could see it in

969
01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:16.239
their face that we had the exact
same experience, because they're as a surprise

970
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.880
as I am. Because I felt
like whatever the moment did to us went

971
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:26.400
on for hours. Before we could
start talking get into detail about any of

972
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:30.639
our experiences, Kristen speaks up.
Of course, she asks to see if

973
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:33.800
Nick is safe and okay. At
this point, she's standing up and seems

974
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:39.320
okay to start walking, So we
walk over to her and ensure that Nick

975
01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:43.400
is safe with his father. We
calmly explained to her that we didn't feel

976
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:46.199
safe having Nick at the campsite while
we were looking for just in case he

977
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:50.960
tried to run off and look for
her himself. She had a little bit

978
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:56.360
of a shame in her face.
She nodded and accepted that as a pretty

979
01:07:56.360 --> 01:08:01.559
reasonable explanation. The ranger asked if
she's okay to start walking back to camp,

980
01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:06.039
and she nodded obediently. So we
got all of our stuff and start

981
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:12.280
walking. We're about twenty feet before
the most futrid rotten smell hits my nose.

982
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:16.039
I know we all smell it at
once based on everybody's body language,

983
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:20.199
and immediately whip my head around see
if the sorcerers the stairs, and of

984
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:26.560
course the stairs are nowhere to be
found. And the ranger looks as lest

985
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:30.279
that says we need to leave right
now. We all feel guilty rushing Kristen

986
01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:35.000
and after all she's been through.
But it's clear that Ranger feels like we

987
01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:40.119
leave the area with a sense of
urgency, so we really start picking up

988
01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:43.880
the pace. But it feels like
the smell is falling. It smells like

989
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:48.560
a mix of sour sewage rotten meaning
sulfur. After five straight minutes of it

990
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:54.760
not losing any intensity, I ask, what does that smell? Sam replies

991
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:58.680
quietly, because I don't think he
wants Kristin to hear it's a carcass,

992
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:03.359
says with the certainly that I know
is from experience. I wisher back one

993
01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:10.760
of their carcasses. Ranger cuts me
off and says it's carcass, but he

994
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:14.520
says in a way that Kristen wouldn't
be able to tell what he actually meant.

995
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:17.520
But me and Sam knew what he
was implying, and the look on

996
01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:25.079
his face was also implying we should
be quiet. Finish our whispering conversation by

997
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:28.159
saying, if you see antlers,
keep your head down, keep walking.

998
01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:32.680
I know I can't reply verbally,
but internally I was cynically joking to myself,

999
01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:36.920
Great, I don't just worry about
magical stairs in the faceless mimic.

1000
01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:43.760
But now I have to worry about
territorial stinky elk now momentarily forgot that the

1001
01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:47.119
most dangerous thing here is still mother
Nature and the last thing when he needs

1002
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:51.319
to be rushed by a six hundred
pound elk. We get through most of

1003
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:56.720
the hike back with zero complications,
but we could see the start of the

1004
01:09:56.800 --> 01:10:00.920
edge of the campsite through the trees. We're all about one hundred yards away

1005
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:04.199
from the finish line when we hear
an elk scream from behind us. You've

1006
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:10.319
never heard an elk scream. It's
horrifying and borderline human like. I encourage

1007
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:13.640
you to look it up on you
too. We start to pick up the

1008
01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:17.239
speed a little bit until we're twenty
feet away from the campsite. Elk let's

1009
01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:21.640
out a second scream, but the
tone changes a little bit. Half second

1010
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:29.640
into the scream, it sounds like
a young boy screaming mom. Kristen Panicky

1011
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:34.079
whips her heads around towards Ranger and
says, that was nick, I thought

1012
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:39.680
you said my son was safe.
Ranger grabs her both so shoulders, not

1013
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:44.039
in an aggressive voice, but a
way that he's about to say she needs

1014
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:48.920
to listen. I promise you that
was not your son. Right now,

1015
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:53.279
we just need to get you to
the lodge and the second we get there

1016
01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:58.439
will call him, I promise,
okay. And then to break the tension

1017
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:00.000
a little bit, he said with
a smile, I just found you.

1018
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:05.279
Please don't go running off of the
woods again. This comforted Kristen enough forget

1019
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:11.399
her through the trees. When we
get out of the woods, it felt

1020
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:15.520
like I could finally breathe again.
We were only in there for about three

1021
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:19.119
hours, but with everything that happened, I couldn't believe that it was just

1022
01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:24.720
past nude. The campsite was still
empty, but we needed to get Kristen

1023
01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:29.199
into a vehicle and headed to the
lodge before anybody came back because it raised

1024
01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:31.680
a lot of questions with other campers. Why is she still here? There's

1025
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:35.760
common knowledge that she was going to
leave that morning. We could tell she's

1026
01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:40.439
peeking towards the campsite looking for her
belongings. But the ranger gets ahead of

1027
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.880
it and he says, don't worry. Your stuff left when Nick did.

1028
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:46.640
It was a great quick thinking by
the ranger. So now let's get you

1029
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:49.479
home. And the ranger said in
my head, I'm considering asking her what

1030
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:54.399
she remembers. But during the two
minute walk to the vehicle, I can

1031
01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:58.000
tell that she's fully under the impression
that she had a couple too many and

1032
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:00.720
got herself lost in the woods.
I can see the embarrassment building on her

1033
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:06.279
face. Our current situation, that's
kind of ideal, because we just need

1034
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:10.079
to get her at it here as
soon as possible. She climbs into the

1035
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:14.960
vehicle, but before she but before
they drive off, the park ranger walkie

1036
01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:17.760
talkies the camp guides. He alerts
them to bring the campers back to the

1037
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:23.199
camp site because there's an aggressive elk
in the area and he doesn't want them

1038
01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:27.680
walking back after dark where they can't
see one coming. And on the other

1039
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:30.560
end, the camp guide, one
of the other camp GUIDs replies, don't

1040
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:35.119
worry, we're already on our way
back because an aggressive, quick full cold

1041
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:40.760
front has moved through and nobody's dressed
for it. I don't know what it

1042
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:45.039
was about the camp guide saying that, but it puts a sense of urgency

1043
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:47.560
into the ranger as he starts to
walk away to the vehicle, but it

1044
01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:51.279
shouts back to us before he gets
in. Boys I'll get back as soon

1045
01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:55.479
as I can. Stay away from
the tree line and if you smell it

1046
01:12:55.920 --> 01:13:01.239
hide. We nervously watch him drive
off. It's on and I'm absolutely exhausted.

1047
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:06.680
I catch myself just thinking about the
devious look on the mimixed face before

1048
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:11.640
it disappeared and evaporated into nothing into
the forest. It reminds me to check

1049
01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:13.880
on my friend. This is the
first time Sam and I have been able

1050
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:15.880
to have a minute to talk since
everything that's gone down. So I just

1051
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:20.920
opened up the conversation with should we
leave, and Sam goes, we can't.

1052
01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:25.520
If it was just you that touched
the stairs, I'd say let's go,

1053
01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:29.359
But I cannot leave, knowing that
I might have just made everything worse

1054
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:34.880
when I stepped on the steps.
Well, I was not surprised with that

1055
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:40.439
answer at all, because that's exactly
what I was thinking earlier when everything happened

1056
01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:44.640
to me. I tried to comfort
him a little bit more. I even

1057
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:47.920
asked the question because it was the
first thing he came in my mind.

1058
01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:54.560
Pretty crazy, how we were in
that time loop back there. Don't really

1059
01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:57.680
understand that. Sam looks at me
funny, and he says, time loop

1060
01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:00.560
Mine wasn't like that at all.
Mine felt like sleep paralysis. I saw

1061
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:04.760
everything happening. I saw you losing
it. I saw the ranger voluntarily switched

1062
01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:09.079
spots with her, and I was
trying to scream, but nothing would come

1063
01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:14.560
out. And then she started talking
to me, but not out loud.

1064
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:16.760
She was talking to me in my
head. She just kept telling me that

1065
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:20.640
it was my turn to go out
the steps and that we should really stop

1066
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:25.880
fighting it, and there was nothing
that we could do, and she just

1067
01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:29.640
kept asking me, do I know
what the crows mean? And then I

1068
01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:32.800
asked him. I asked, Sam, did she tell you what they meant?

1069
01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:35.680
Like? What does she mean by
that? Because I haven't been able

1070
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:39.600
to stop thinking about it this whole
time. And Sam says no, she

1071
01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:43.760
just kept tawning me with the question
about the crows. But she did say

1072
01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:46.600
that we'll know what they mean when
we get back to the camp. That

1073
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:50.319
was basically our cue to start walking
back to the camp because we're both looking

1074
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:54.880
for answers. I kept the dialogue
going and I asked him, if our

1075
01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:58.840
experiences were so different, what do
we think happened to the ranger. He

1076
01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:02.680
jokingly replied, I'm sure it was
something unique and horrible, But I'm more

1077
01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:06.680
interested to see what he knows about
the source of that smell. We walked

1078
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:11.680
quietly for a second, straight ahead
towards the logs to sit down. We

1079
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:14.880
could see from a distance the crows
were still perched exactly where they were,

1080
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.920
and we just set on the log
straight across from them. It's funny,

1081
01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:21.359
because we were so tired, we
didn't even have enough energy to be scared

1082
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:25.640
of the crows at this point in
time. We were just sitting having a

1083
01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:30.000
standoff with these things. They're staring
at us and we're staring at them,

1084
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:34.039
and then one all the way to
the left, the crow all the way

1085
01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:39.119
to the left just squawks out of
nowhere and just flies off. We just

1086
01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:43.520
look at each other and nod.
It turns out the mimic was right.

1087
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:47.640
We knew exactly what they meant,
the crows meant. Sam just casually says

1088
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:50.600
one down, two to go,
and then he follows up and kind of

1089
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:56.239
shamefully asked me, did I do
what you did? He was implying,

1090
01:15:56.319 --> 01:15:59.039
you know, did he have a
seizure as well? I said no,

1091
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:00.439
It just seemed like you were really
trying hard to get at the top of

1092
01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:04.159
the stairs, rushing as fast as
as fast as you could, but I

1093
01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:08.560
stopped before you could get I stopped
you before you could get there. He

1094
01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:11.359
says, did you feel that vibrations? And I said, yeah, same

1095
01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:14.199
thing happened, and you you know, same thing happened with him a step

1096
01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:16.920
on them. He asked me,
do you think there's a correlation between how

1097
01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:20.800
many steps you go up in the
severity of the consequences? I replied,

1098
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:27.520
I really hope not. And then
right then we hear laughing and talking approaching

1099
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.159
us. It's the group of campers
coming back from fishing. Luckily, the

1100
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:34.680
chatter sounds very nice and pleasant,
so that gives us a little bit of

1101
01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:38.840
relief because we know nothing bad happened
to that while they were out. Me

1102
01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:44.039
and Sam do are best to keep
everything out of control, obviously, so

1103
01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:47.600
nobody else knew. We didn't want
them to show uncomfortable. Everybody else is

1104
01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:51.439
unloading all their gear and gathering around
them for lunch. Once everybody's settled in,

1105
01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:55.800
one of the camp guides starts going
around and he's doing a head count

1106
01:16:56.600 --> 01:17:00.159
and he shouts, were one short. Everybody look around, who's missing?

1107
01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:03.479
Everybody looks around for the immediate family
or friends or loved ones. And then

1108
01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:08.560
two guys speak up playfully. They're
both in their early thirties, like real

1109
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:12.640
outdoor looking types. They said,
don't worry, guys, that's just our

1110
01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:15.840
buddy Pete. Sam and I looked
at each other in fear and couldn't help

1111
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:19.479
but assume that this was a result
of the stairs in the woods being stepped

1112
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:27.359
on again to be continued. Oh, man, wish I gotta know what

1113
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:30.600
happens next. Yeah, there's another
apart. Man, Well, did dive

1114
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:33.159
into that later? I mean,
wow, uh hell, what a cool

1115
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:36.800
story. Though. Yeah, So
when I said this over to you guys,

1116
01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:40.680
I sent it over in batches,
like I'm gonna read this part.

1117
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:42.640
Jack, You're gonna read this part. Luke, you're gonna read this part.

1118
01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:45.079
Did you guys read the whole story? Though? I read, I

1119
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:47.000
was going to read it all,
but then I thought to myself that I

1120
01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:53.479
kind of I was I kind of
wanted to experience it live, and so

1121
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:55.800
I was like, yeah, I'm
going to spoil it for myself. So

1122
01:17:55.960 --> 01:18:00.960
I ended up not reading the whole
thing in one sitting. That was also

1123
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:05.399
my kind of feeling. I was
like, you know, I could get

1124
01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:10.439
into my portion and I can experience
that. But then I was like,

1125
01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:15.439
I want to hear the experience of
hearing the story from you guys when you

1126
01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:18.399
do your guys' portions, and that
way I can kind of get a feeling

1127
01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:23.399
of how our listeners might feel as
well. So I was just like in

1128
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:26.000
this mindset, like you know what, I could read this whole thing,

1129
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:29.880
bash it out real fast, and
then go from there. But then I

1130
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:31.600
was like, man, I just
I wanted to see what it's like being

1131
01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:35.119
on the other side of this listening
to it being read off by people.

1132
01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:40.279
And so I was like excited to
hear how you guys did your takes because

1133
01:18:40.279 --> 01:18:42.720
I knew how I was going to
do mine, and so I was like,

1134
01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:44.720
you know, I want to hear
how you guys do. And so

1135
01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:49.560
I really enjoyed experiencing it with everybody
else except for the parts that were I

1136
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.600
had edited into mine. I knew
it was going to be a little bit

1137
01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:57.760
different because the last couple of weeks
we've just been sharing a story boom table

1138
01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:00.560
talk right afterwards. But I was
curious would they actually read the whole thing

1139
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:04.359
like obviously I had, I mean, I was so into this I did,

1140
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:06.520
so I was kind of looking for
your reactions as we went along.

1141
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:10.039
I don't how did you guys feel
about We'll get back to the story in

1142
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:12.479
a second. How did you feel
about the change in pace this week?

1143
01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:15.119
Obviously it's not something I think we
could do every week, but I really

1144
01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:19.279
enjoyed it. It really felt like
we were kind of like weaving the story

1145
01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:24.239
together while we're reading it. Yeah, I felt like we were in school,

1146
01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:27.119
like taking her in to reading.
Well, we were actually pat right.

1147
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:30.960
Yeah. I was gonna say a
slightly more ancient form of that,

1148
01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:36.760
it would be like a Viking Skalds
would take turns telling a ghost story and

1149
01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:42.760
says this is a very druidic story
as it is with the mimics and the

1150
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:46.119
crows, which kind of reminds me
of Odin's Ravens in a way. I

1151
01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:50.439
was thinking more like that, but
similar, that's exactly same thing. I

1152
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:55.560
was thinking, Look, that's exactly
thing. Yeah, that's that's what Pilgrims

1153
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:58.720
and the Vikings and all that stuff. What do you guys think about this

1154
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:00.640
story? Though? It was a
so last week we talked about the stairs

1155
01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:03.279
in the woods, and then I
was able to find this. I really

1156
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:09.920
love this. I always enjoy stories
involved going into the woods. I've always

1157
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:14.560
liked going into the woods as a
kid, not at night, that was

1158
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:17.119
That's where I drew the line.
Not searchingly for a missing people, no,

1159
01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:20.239
no, but I would you know, go on trails, go on

1160
01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:24.439
hikes and things like that, and
you just stare off out there and you're

1161
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:27.760
just like, what kind of things
are going on out here when when no

1162
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:30.520
one's watching, you know, it's
just the animals and just stuff like that.

1163
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:36.079
So I've always enjoyed woods and wood
based stories. I guess I'm always

1164
01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:42.720
been a big fan of preachers too, Like you know, things that someone

1165
01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:46.319
might have conjured and some past life, some sort of weird thing that shouldn't

1166
01:20:46.319 --> 01:20:53.199
be here. And so like this
idea of something coming into our world or

1167
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:59.199
being attracted to someone because they interact
with something from their world. That kind

1168
01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:03.600
of story always is like the perfect
type of like story for me, Like,

1169
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:06.319
you know, it gives you a
little bit of a chill, but

1170
01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:11.319
it's also like you know, it
kind of harkens back to old and religions

1171
01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:15.319
and stuff about you know, their
you know, rich listic offerings or something

1172
01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:18.560
you know, just some sort of
dark creature in the woods. So I've

1173
01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:23.560
always liked stories like that in general, So this has been absolutely awesome to

1174
01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:28.840
listen to and to talk about.
People commenting, Jesus, that's terrifying,

1175
01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:33.159
crazy story. Some people like the
change up seems more more than not.

1176
01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:36.880
The only person thought they like kind
of us. I think it's hard to

1177
01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:41.239
pay attention that long. But the
good thing about this is you can always

1178
01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:44.279
come back and listen to it later. But we do appreciate everybody listening to

1179
01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:46.840
it live there for sure. I
thought this was like a good follow up

1180
01:21:47.119 --> 01:21:50.840
to what Jack teased last week.
Then yeah, you know what happened when

1181
01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:54.800
you touch the stairs in the woods. This story is a little bit everywhere.

1182
01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:57.920
I got a lot of controversy around
it. I will say one thing,

1183
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:02.399
it's a great story. I mean, wow, how creative? Is

1184
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:05.520
there another part to this? Like
this, I cut it off because I

1185
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:09.279
knew I knew it would be it
would be past our time. Well,

1186
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:12.520
I definitely want to rest. Yeah, oh yeah, there's more. I

1187
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:15.680
uh, there's basically a second half. There's about the same amount left again

1188
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:19.560
length. Yeah, I would like
to like to revisit for sure, And

1189
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:25.199
uh, get the ending, get
get the final bits of the story.

1190
01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:28.960
Yeah. Yeah, so I don't
know. That's what happens when you step

1191
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.239
on the stairs in the wood said, yeah, don't do it. It's

1192
01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:34.840
to say the fuck off. I
know. We're just we're just talking here.

1193
01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:38.920
People are commenting along. That's fine, we're just wrapping things up.

1194
01:22:39.560 --> 01:22:43.159
The mimic character, Luke Jack.
We'll let luc go first. But what

1195
01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:47.800
did you think about the mimic character. Mimics are a very interesting creature in

1196
01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:54.439
different lore and like stories, there's
always different like shape shifters or something that

1197
01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:59.520
like takes on the form of someone
that gets lost, or they deliberately adduct

1198
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:03.760
people. I always I like those
stories a lot. Jack actually mentioned something

1199
01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:09.640
about the tree with the Old Wolf
opening, and that has come up in

1200
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:13.640
a lot of them also, so
that must be, you know, some

1201
01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:17.520
sort of connection to an ancient story
of some sort. I find them to

1202
01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:25.199
be absolutely terrifying, because the worst
thing I can imagine is something looking exactly

1203
01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:30.239
right but being wrong. Actually,
uh, what's his name? Stephen King

1204
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:34.960
said that the most terrifying thing he
could come up think of would be to

1205
01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:41.279
walk into his house and find everything
replaced with the exact copy of itself.

1206
01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:45.079
And so that's kind of like the
feeling you get from a mimic. Yeah,

1207
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:47.279
you know, kind of like to
go on from that the mimics and

1208
01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:54.039
you know, I guess the times
a're called changelings or yeah, changelings or

1209
01:23:54.079 --> 01:23:56.840
even sci fi stories, I guess
what's the other thing, Well, there's

1210
01:23:56.840 --> 01:24:00.199
something opper or what the heck is
that word? Oh? Yeah, uh

1211
01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:04.720
like what was it? Doppel ganger? Doppelganger? Yeah, yeah, And

1212
01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:10.239
it's just like this, you know, this idea that someone you knew is

1213
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not that person, and it just
is pretending to be that person. Like

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I said, like sci fi movies
had like the pod people, you know,

1215
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it was like just you know,
a fake uh, and you're just

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like, you know, what happens
to the real person? What happens the

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01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:29.399
person I knew? And and just
seeing this person or thing pretend uh to

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be a person. This is very
unsettling. It's unsettling on every in every

1219
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:36.760
angle. And uh yeah, yeah, for sure stories of of of of

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01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:41.520
mimics or change things or doppel gangers
that yeah, you can't help but be

1221
01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:45.960
incredibly fascinated about them. UFOs are
talked about more mainstream these days, and

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there's just it kind of brings me
back to that when I'm thinking that there's

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01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:55.199
a whole huge forest, there's a
whole ocean, there's a whole whatever it

1224
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:59.079
may be that we don't really inhabit, so we don't really understand. Maybe

1225
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:01.279
we don't really understand where we're at
now. But you know, to think

1226
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:04.119
about what's in the woods that you
don't know, the things you don't know

1227
01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:09.760
about is terrifying. And I think
that for me when the comment was made

1228
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that they were almost the ranger said
they were almost lucky, that this was

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the mimic that you're dealing with.
Yeah, and you know, he mentions

1230
01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:19.520
at the end of this of this
segment of the story where there's the elk

1231
01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:24.640
and there's the what's going on with
the crow is what's going on with you

1232
01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:28.920
know this like carcass, like smell
that there's you know, what else is

1233
01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:31.880
going to if you smell it?
Hide right exactly? You know. And

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01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:34.439
also a lot of times people say, like, you know, we're humans,

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01:25:34.439 --> 01:25:38.439
were the or the king of the
planet or whatever, but yet we

1236
01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:42.119
stay out of the woods, you
know, we stay off the mountaintop,

1237
01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:45.000
so we stay out of the bottom
of the ocean. We stay far away

1238
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:48.439
from all of these locations that make
up most of the planet, And yeah,

1239
01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:51.640
you wonder to some degree, it's
like, well, yeah, obviously

1240
01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:57.319
it's logical, but you know,
maybe there's also more reasons than we can

1241
01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:00.680
fully understand why we've always done that. We've always stayed out of those areas

1242
01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:03.880
we live, where we live,
and whatever else is out there where that's

1243
01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:10.079
out there, guys, spend another
fun episode. Yes, let's feel exhausted

1244
01:26:10.119 --> 01:26:14.159
from all the reading, though,
Yeah, there are some long stretches there.

1245
01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:16.319
I tried to split it up evenly, right, I gave you all

1246
01:26:16.439 --> 01:26:19.359
the worst, but there was a
part where they said they were exhausted it's

1247
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:21.760
only new and I was like,
yeah, I mean I kind of feel

1248
01:26:21.800 --> 01:26:26.359
this exhaustion just from the you know, through the story, you can kind

1249
01:26:26.359 --> 01:26:30.600
of feel like they're exertion they're going
through. Yeah, I agree. Well,

1250
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:32.640
yeah, so everybody listening live and
those of you listened later. We

1251
01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:36.680
do this live every Monday at ten
thirty pm. If Luke's not walking his

1252
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:45.800
cat at that time is a big
Doug. We're gonna we'll do this every

1253
01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:47.920
week, you know, less holiday
or something coming up. It was a

1254
01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:50.840
it was another fun week, though, I'm excited about what the future brings.

1255
01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:56.800
You want to get us some stories
we are I think this stream to

1256
01:26:56.840 --> 01:26:59.399
the Facebook. I finally got that
set out, So look for your scary

1257
01:26:59.399 --> 01:27:04.239
stories on Facebook. It's also on
Twitter. You can also I'll let you

1258
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:06.960
plug the discord and all that other
shit, Luke, because I don't know.

1259
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:12.439
But it's also you can look up
my profiles on Everything's Podcast Father.

1260
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:14.960
It's also there, Luke. You
have a couple of communities that you set

1261
01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:19.479
up. Yes, we have a
discord, which is your scary storage discord.

1262
01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:24.199
I need to put that link on
our Facebook. I haven't done that

1263
01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:31.640
yet. We also have a Reddit
page so called share your Scary Stories and

1264
01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:36.520
yeah, you can catch me on
there on discord or read it as John

1265
01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:44.039
Daily Programmer. I handle most of
that stuff. We're still setting up your

1266
01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:45.880
scary stories dot com. You can
just submit there, or you can contact

1267
01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:49.359
us wherever. We just told you
guys, I'm going to hit this outro.

1268
01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:51.640
We're gonna be done with it.
What do you think? Yeah,

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01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:53.560
we'll see you next time.